Michael

"It really opened my eyes to just the whole business."

"I had responsibility for exciting things like the budgets for our department, which was about 250 people, 50, $60 million at that time."

"an average day was 10 to 11 hours...majority of the time I was in meetings"

"To learn good listening, watch a good listener, like if you're in meetings, focus on who seems to be actively listening."

"the friendships and the relationships I enjoyed the most with the people I managed"

"it was feeling comfortable in that role and in learning to take more risks. 'cause lawyers are kind of a risk-averse group generally."

"there is a energy level that people, in their late teens, early mid twenties have and optimism and energy about life and hope and future that is just really infectious."

"I think being very hardworking and creative and a problem solver in a number of those roles is also like a characteristic that a lot of people have."

"I would encourage people to seek out mentors beyond just the jobs that they have."

"I would say being open to those kinds of opportunities and throughout my career, that is kind of what happened."

"it definitely made me not wanna do anything to do with like, criminal law when I was done with that."

"Again, it's really getting, having something that just makes you stand out a bit different than, Hey, I was a good student that went to a good school."