Sara

"I was in my mid twenties managing other software engineers who were, some of them had been at the company and in their career for 20 years. So I learned a lot."

"understanding their career goals and ambitions, and then working with them"

"A lot of what you do is talk to people."

"People skills, like management theory, organizational psychology theory, understanding how to build culture, psychological safety."

"People come reach out to me two decades later or five years later and say, you're still the best manager I ever had."

"things will change that are outside of your control, um, economic, global context shift."

"There's just like a culture of eternal learning...nothing static. We're not, it's not slow, it's not stodgy."

"I think it's people who really are always learning, like people who are avid readers or tinkerers, they always have side projects."

"I don't think it's made much progress in the 30 years I've been in the industry."

"It's not about you. It's about they should close the doors. There's no headcount for experienced people, there's no headcount for junior people."

"Every time I stepped out, because I'm a curious person, doing reflection and learning, I went back to a higher level and a bigger opportunity."

"I really took classes way beyond what my major requirements and even my area was."

"I've probably made more mistakes as a result of not knowing that culture, like corporate core culture. But on the other hand, I think it also gave me certain skills that that other mindset brought in that were unique and different."

"whatever you do, get access to, do it with some sense of purpose and commitment to it for however long it makes sense. And then just iterate."